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And this for the following reasons. - Kurdish people are denied their national rights; in Turkey they are denied even the right to speak and be educated in their own language, the right to use Kurdish in official documents or to broadcast in it. - Having failed to win a measure of autonomy by peaceful means in the Turkish part of Kurdistan, the PKK was left with but one option – to wage armed struggle for national liberation. This struggle has been going on for 14 years, during which time the Turkish army has committed the most abominable atrocities, practised gruesome torture and inflicted unspeakable and indiscriminate cruelties on entire villages and regions. Far from extinguishing the flames of the Kurdish national liberation struggle, the brutal actions of the Turkish military have only served to fan them into an uncontrollable conflagration. In its leading article, The Times of 17.2.99, while expressing satisfaction at the abduction of Mr.Ocalan to Turkey and denouncing him as a "brutal Marxist terrorist", is nevertheless obliged to add: "With his capture, however, it is Turkey that is now on trial. Ankara's fight against the PKK has been bloody, short-sighted and self-defeating. The army, which runs the campaign, has brought disgrace on Turkey with its record of torture, indiscriminate attacks on Kurdish villages and scorched earth policy. Turkish politicians have prosecuted anyone advocating normal minority rights and cultural autonomy; they have failed to make the necessary minimum concessions to stop even moderates among the Kurdish community seeing the PKK as their champions. As a result, Turkey has been pilloried in the Council of Europe, denounced in the European Parliament, censured by human rights organisations and refused the chance of early application to the one organisation that it regards as the embodiment of its post-Ataturk European quest – the European Union" (The Ocalan Test). - The writer of this editorial makes the assertion in the previous paragraph that Mr.Ocalan is "no martyr to Kurdish aspirations for a homeland but a brutal Marxist terrorist"; however a mere two sentences later, in the paragraph quoted above, presumably written by the same author, the truth oozes out that the vicious Turkish attempt at suppressing all Kurdish national expression has given birth to a virile and vibrant revolutionary liberation struggle, which has thrown up Mr.Ocalan as the most representative spokesman of the aspirations and struggle of the Kurdish people for a homeland of their own, which alone explains the spontaneous outburst of anger, leading in some cases to attempted self-immolation, among the Kurdish community following the capture of Mr.Ocalan. If the reactionary Times leader writer can see in this expression of anger nothing more than an "an alarming co-ordination" of "violence and fanaticism inherent in the PKK philosophy", that is not the fault of the Kurdish people, who quite rightly view Mr.Ocalan in the same light as the Italians – and not just the Italians – do Garibaldi. And one has to be totally bereft of all finer human feelings not to have respect for a Garibaldi or an Ocalan. - Hypocritical bourgeois calls for a Fair Trial - Absolutely!.. Freakness of Jewish Mafia ruled Western!.. Mr.Ocalan is presently in an island prison, undergoing interrogation, and in all probability torture, at the hands of the Turkish military, notorious for its brutality and bestiality. Bourgeois newspapers and politicians, including `left'-wing bourgeois politicians, have, with characteristic hypocrisy demanded a free and fair trial for Mr.Ocalan, who faces charges of "terrorism, treason and separatism" before a state security court, where civilian rules do not apply. The Financial Times, in its editorial of 17.2.99 says now that the Turkish government has got its most wanted man under arrest , it is "essential that the legal process against him is carried out properly, and in complete openness". At least the Financial Times has the decency to add that there are "genuine doubts about Turkey's capacity to offer him a fair trial". By comparison the Times leader of the same date addresses its remarks to Bulent Ecevit, the Turkish Prime Minister, with the following stomach-churning insincerity: "Mr.Ecevit, the man who also ordered the invasion of Cyprus, must understand that Turkey's peace at home and its credibility abroad depend on decent treatment of the captured terrorist and on a scrupulously fair and transparent trial. The first onus will be on Turkey's Government to prove its charges against Mr.Ocalan" (17.2.99). In view of the fact that if, in the course of the short editorial, The Times thrice describes Mr.Ocalan as a "terrorist", holds him responsible for a "bloody 14-year campaign" which "has claimed some 30,000 lives", in view of which "Turkey had every right to demand his extradition", and which asserts that "the PKK record of assassinations, anti-Turkish violence and extremism across Europe fully justifies the ban imposed in Germany and some other countries on this group as a terrorist organisation", what difficulty should the Turkish authorities have in proving their charges against him before a state security court? He stands even fewer chances – and this is saying something – of getting a fair trial before a Turkish state security court than did the Irish freedom fighters before the notorious Diplock Courts. - Mr.Ocalan is no criminal. He is a national liberation fighter against Turkish oppression and occupation of his homeland, whom Turkey has no right to try. - Mr. Ocalan must be Freed Unconditionally!.. - I agree with you!.. The only demand that can, and must, in all fairness be made is the one which says that as Mr.Ocalan has been illegally kidnapped by the Turkish authorities with the full assistance of US imperialism, Israeli Zionism, as well as the Greek and Kenyan governments, he must be unconditionally released and sent back to Kenya, following which his request for political asylum must be granted in a country of his choice. This is the demand which must be put forward by every class-conscious worker. This is the demand that must permeate the working-class movement. This is the demand that must be echoed by the whole of progressive humanity. ** - Here we see the original version of judgement - Which one? - European Court od Human Rights!.. - Let's watch!.. ** EUROPEAN COURT OF HUMAN RIGHTS GRAND CHAMBER JUDGMENT ÖCALAN v. TURKEY Press release issued by the Registrar 12 May 2005 The European Court of Human Rights has today delivered at a public hearing its Grand Chamber judgment in the case of Öcalan v. Turkey (application no. 46221/99). In its judgment the Grand Chamber made the same findings of violation and non violation of the European Convention on Human Rights as the Chamber in its judgment of 12 March 20031. Detention The Court held, unanimously, that there had been: * a violation of Article 5 § 4 (right to have lawfulness of detention decided speedily by a court) of the European Convention on Human Rights, given the lack of a remedy by which the applicant could have had the lawfulness of his detention in police custody decided; * no violation of Article 5 § 1 (no unlawful deprivation of liberty) of the Convention, concerning the applicant's arrest; * a violation of Article 5 § 3 (right to be brought promptly before a judge) given the failure to bring the applicant before a judge promptly after his arrest. Fair trial The Court held: * by 11 votes to six, that there had been a violation of Article 6 § 1 (right to a fair trial) in that the applicant had not been tried by an independent and impartial tribunal; and, * unanimously, that there had been a violation of Article 6 § 1, taken together with Article 6 § 3 (b) (right to adequate time and facilities for preparation of defence) and (c) (right to legal assistance), in that the applicant had not had a fair trial. Death penalty The Court held: * unanimously, that there had been no violation of Article 2 (right to life); * unanimously, that there had been no violation of Article 14 (prohibition of discrimination) taken in conjunction with Article 2, concerning the implementation of the death penalty; * unanimously, that there had been no violation of Article 3 (prohibition of ill-treatment), concerning the implementation of the death penalty; * and, by 13 votes to four, that there had been a violation of Article 3 concerning the imposition of the death penalty following an unfair trial. ./.. Treatment and conditions The Court held, unanimously, that there had been: * no violation of Article 3 concerning the conditions in which the applicant had been transferred from Kenya to Turkey or the conditions of his detention on the island of Imrali. Other complaints The Court also held, unanimously, that: * there had been no violation of Article 34 (right of individual application); and that * it was not necessary to examine separately the applicant's remaining complaints under Articles 7 (no punishment without law), 8 (right to respect for private and family life), 9 (freedom of thought, conscience and religion), 10 (freedom of expression), 13 (right to an effective remedy), 14 and 18 (limitation on use of restrictions on rights). Under Article 41 (just satisfaction), the Court held, unanimously, that its findings of violations of Articles 3, 5 and 6 constituted in themselves sufficient just satisfaction for any damage sustained by the applicant and awarded the applicant's lawyers 120,000 euros (EUR) for costs and expenses. (The judgment is available in English and French.) 1. Principal facts The case concerns an application brought by a Turkish national, Abdullah Öcalan, who was born in 1949. He is currently incarcerated in Imrali Prison (Bursa, Turkey). At the time of the events in question, the Turkish courts had issued seven warrants for Mr Öcalan's arrest and a wanted notice (red notice) had been circulated by Interpol. He was accused of founding an armed gang in order to destroy the integrity of the Turkish State and of instigating terrorist acts resulting in loss of life. On 9 October 1998 he was expelled from Syria, where he had been living for many years. From there he went to Greece, Russia, Italy and then again Russia and Greece before going to Kenya, where, on the evening of 15 February 1999, in disputed circumstances, he was taken on board an aircraft at Nairobi airport and arrested by Turkish officials. He was then flown to Turkey. On arrival in Turkey, he was taken to Imrali Prison, where he was held in police custody from 16 to 23 February 1999 and questioned by the security forces. He received no legal assistance during that period. His lawyer in Turkey was prevented from travelling to visit him by members of the security forces. 16 other lawyers were also refused permission to visit on 23 February 1999. On 23 February 1999 the applicant appeared before an Ankara State Security Court judge, who ordered him to be placed in pre-trial detention. The applicant was allowed only restricted access to his lawyers who were not authorised by the prison authorities to provide him with a copy of the documents in the case file, other than the indictment. It was not until the hearing on 4 June 1999 that the State Security Court gave the applicant permission to consult the case file under the supervision of two registrars and authorised his lawyers to provide him with a copy of certain documents. On 29 June 1999 Ankara State Security Court found the applicant guilty of carrying out actions calculated to bring about the separation of a part of Turkish territory and of forming and leading an armed gang to achieve that end. It sentenced him to death, under Article 125 of the Criminal Code. That decision was upheld by the Court of Cassation. Under Law no. 4771, published on 9 August 2002, the Turkish Assembly resolved to abolish the death penalty in peacetime. On 3 October 2002 Ankara State Security Court commuted the applicant's death sentence to life imprisonment. An application to set aside the provision abolishing the death penalty in peacetime for persons convicted of terrorist offences was dismissed by the Constitutional Court on 27 December 2002. 2. Procedure and composition of the Court The application was lodged with the European Court of Human Rights on 16 February 1999. A Chamber hearing was held on 21 November 2000 and the case was declared partly admissible on 14 December 2000. In its Chamber judgment of 12 March 2003, the Court held, among other things, that there had been a violation of Article 5 §§ 3 and 4, Article 6 §§ 1 and 3 (b) and (c), and also of Article 3 on account of the fact that the death penalty had been imposed after an unfair trial. The case was referred to the Grand Chamber2 at the request of the applicant and the Government. A Grand Chamber hearing was held on 9 June 2004. Judgment was given by the Grand Chamber of 17 judges, composed as follows: Luzius Wildhaber (Swiss), President, Christos Rozakis (Greek), Jean-Paul Costa (French), Georg Ress (German), Nicolas Bratza (British), Elisabeth Palm (Swedish), Lucius Caflisch (Swiss)3 Loukis Loucaides (Cypriot), Riza Türmen (Turkish), Viera Strážnická (Slovakian), Peer Lorenzen (Danish), Volodymyr Butkevych (Ukrainian), John Hedigan (Irish), Mindia Ugrekhelidze (Georgian), Lech Garlicki (Polish), Javier Borrego Borrego (Spanish), Alvina Gyulumyan (Armenian), judges, and also Paul Mahoney, Registrar. 3. Summary of the judgment Complaints The applicant complained, in particular, that: * the imposition and/or execution of the death penalty was or would be in violation of Articles 2, 3 and 14 of the Convention; * the conditions in which he was transferred from Kenya to Turkey and detained on the island of Imrali - in particular that the Turkish authorities failed to facilitate transport to and from the island, making it difficult for his family and lawyers to visit him - amounted to inhuman treatment in breach of Article 3; * he was deprived of his liberty unlawfully, that he was not brought promptly before a judge and that he did not have access to proceedings to challenge the lawfulness of his detention, in breach of Article 5 §§ 1, 3 and 4; * he did not have a fair trial because he was not tried by an independent and impartial tribunal (given the presence of a military judge on the bench of the State Security Court), that the judges were influenced by hostile media reports and that his lawyers were not given sufficient access to the court file to enable them to prepare his defence properly, in breach of Article 6 § 1; * his legal representatives in Amsterdam were prevented from contacting him after his arrest and that the Turkish Government failed to reply to the request of the European Court of Human Rights for them to supply information, in violation of Article 34. He also relied on Articles 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 14 and 18. Decision of the Court4 Detention Right to have lawfulness of detention decided speedily by a court The Government had raised a preliminary objection that the applicant had failed to exhaust his domestic remedies under this head. However, the Grand Chamber saw no reason to depart from the Chamber's findings in this respect, notably as to the impossibility for the applicant in the circumstances in which he found himself while in police custody to have effective recourse to the remedy indicated by the Government. Nor could the possibility of obtaining compensation satisfy the requirement of a judicial remedy to determine the lawfulness of detention. The applicant did not therefore have an effective remedy available to him and there had accordingly been a violation of Article 5 § 4 of the Convention. No unlawful deprivation of liberty The Grand Chamber agreed with the Chamber that the applicant's arrest on 15 February 1999 and his detention had been in accordance with "a procedure prescribed by law" and that there had, therefore, been no violation of Article 5 § 1. Right to be brought promptly before a judge The Grand Chamber found that the total period spent by the applicant in police custody before being brought before a judge came to a minimum of seven days. It could not accept that it was necessary for the applicant to be detained for such a period without being brought before a judge. There had accordingly been a violation of Article 5 § 3. Fair trial Whether Ankara State Security Court was independent and impartial The Grand Chamber noted that the military judge on the bench of Ankara State Security Court which convicted the applicant had been replaced on 23 June 1999. However, the replacement of the military judge before the end of the proceedings could not dispose of the applicant's reasonably held concern about the trial court's independence and impartiality. There had been a violation of Article 6 § 1 in this respect. Whether the proceedings before the State Security Court were fair The Grand Chamber agreed with the Chamber's findings that the applicant's trial was unfair because: he had no assistance from his lawyers during questioning in police custody; he was unable to communicate with his lawyers out of the hearing of third parties; he was unable to gain direct access to the case file until a very late stage in the proceedings; restrictions were imposed on the number and length of his lawyers' visits; and his lawyers were not given proper access to the case file until late in the day. The Grand Chamber found that the overall effect of those difficulties taken as a whole had so restricted the rights of the defence that the principle of a fair trial, as set out in Article 6, had been contravened. This amounted to a violation of Article 6 § 1, taken together with Article 6 § 3 (b) and (c). The Grand Chamber further held that it was unnecessary to examine the other complaints under Article 6 relating to the fairness of the proceedings. Death Penalty Implementation of the death penalty The Grand Chamber noted that the death penalty had been abolished in Turkey and the applicant's sentence had been commuted to one of life imprisonment. Furthermore, on 12 November 2003, Turkey had ratified Protocol No. 6 to the Convention concerning the abolition of the death penalty. Accordingly, there had been no violation of Articles 2, 3 or 14 on account of the implementation of the death penalty. Legal significance of the practice of Contracting States regarding the death penalty The Grand Chamber shared the Chamber's view that capital punishment in peacetime had come to be regarded as an unacceptable form of punishment which was no longer permissible under Article 2. The fact that there were still a large number of States which had yet to sign or ratify Protocol No. 13 concerning the abolition of the death penalty in all circumstances might prevent the Court from finding that it was the established practice of the Contracting States to regard the implementation of the death penalty as inhuman and degrading treatment contrary to Article 3, since no derogation might be made from that provision, even in times of war. However, the Grand Chamber agreed with the Chamber that it was not necessary to reach any firm conclusion on this point since it would be contrary to the Convention, even if Article 2 were to be construed as still permitting the death penalty, to implement a death sentence following an unfair trial. Death penalty following an unfair trial The Grand Chamber agreed with the Chamber that in considering the imposition of the death penalty under Article 3, regard had to be had to Article 2, which precluded the implementation of the death penalty concerning a person who had not had a fair trial. In the Grand Chamber's view, to impose a death sentence on a person after an unfair trial was to subject that person wrongfully to the fear that he would be executed. The fear and uncertainty as to the future generated by a sentence of death, in circumstances where there existed a real possibility that the sentence would be enforced, inevitably gave rise to a significant degree of human anguish. Such anguish could not be dissociated from the unfairness of the proceedings underlying the sentence which, given that human life was at stake, became unlawful under the Convention. The Grand Chamber noted that there had been a moratorium on the implementation of the death penalty in Turkey since 1984 and that, in the applicant's case, the Turkish Government had complied with the Court's interim measure under Rule 39 of the Rules of Court to stay the execution. It was further noted that the applicant's file had not been sent to Parliament for approval of the death sentence as was then required by the Turkish Constitution. However, the Grand Chamber agreed with the Chamber that the applicant's background as the leader and founder of the PKK, an organisation which had been engaged in a sustained campaign of violence causing many thousands of casualties, had made him Turkey's most wanted person. In view of the fact that the applicant has been convicted of the most serious crimes existing in the Turkish Criminal Code and of the general political controversy in Turkey - prior to the decision to abolish the death penalty - surrounding the question of whether he should be executed, there was a real risk that the sentence might be implemented. In practical terms, the risk remained for more than three years of the applicant's detention in Imrali from the date of the Court of Cassation's judgment of 25 November 1999 affirming the applicant's conviction until Ankara State Security Court's judgment of 3 October 2002 which commuted the death penalty to which the applicant had been sentenced to one of life imprisonment. Consequently, the Grand Chamber concluded that the imposition of the death sentence on the applicant following an unfair trial by a court whose independence and impartiality were open to doubt amounted to inhuman treatment in violation of Article 3. Treatment and conditions Conditions of the applicant's transfer from Kenya to Turkey The Grand Chamber considered that it had not been established 'beyond all reasonable doubt' that the applicant's arrest and the conditions in which he was transferred from Kenya to Turkey exceeded the usual degree of humiliation that was inherent in every arrest and detention or attained the minimum level of severity required for Article 3 to apply. Consequently, there had been no violation of Article 3 on that account. Detention conditions on Imrali While concurring with the Council of Europe's Committee for the Prevention of Torture's recommendations that the long-term effects of the applicant's relative social isolation should be attenuated by giving him access to the same facilities as other high security prisoners in Turkey, such as television and telephone contact with his family, the Grand Chamber agreed with the Chamber that the general conditions in which the applicant was being detained at Imrali Prison had not reached the minimum level of severity required to constitute inhuman or degrading treatment within the meaning of Article 3. Consequently, there had been no violation of Article 3 on that account. Other complaints Article 34 The Grand Chamber noted that there was nothing to indicate that the applicant had been hindered in the exercise of his right of individual petition to any significant degree. And, while regrettable, the Turkish Government's failure to supply information requested by the Court earlier had not, in the special circumstances of the case, prevented the applicant from setting out his complaints about the criminal proceedings that had been brought against him. There had accordingly been no violation of Article 34. Other complaints The Grand Chamber considered that no separate examination of the complaints under Articles 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 14 and 18 was necessary. Article 46 The Grand Chamber reiterated that the Court's judgments were essentially declaratory in nature and that, in general, it was primarily for the State concerned to choose, subject to supervision by the Committee of Ministers, the means to be used in its domestic legal order in order to discharge its legal obligation under Article 46. However, exceptionally, with a view to assisting the State concerned to fulfil its obligations under Article 46, the Court had sought to indicate the type of measure that might be taken in order to put an end to a systemic situation. In such circumstances, it might propose various options and leave the choice of measure and its implementation to the discretion of the State concerned. In other exceptional cases, the nature of the violation found might be such as to leave no real choice as to the measures required to remedy it and the Court might decide to indicate only one such measure. In the specific context of cases against Turkey concerning the independence and impartiality of the state security courts, Chambers of the Court had indicated in certain judgments that were delivered after the Chamber judgment in the applicant's case that, in principle, the most appropriate form of redress would be for the applicant to be given a retrial without delay if he or she so requested. The Grand Chamber endorsed this general approach. It considered that, where an individual, as in the applicant's case, had been convicted by a court which did not meet the Convention requirements of independence and impartiality, a retrial or a reopening of the case, if requested, represented in principle an appropriate way of redressing the violation. However, the specific remedial measures, if any, required of a respondent State in order to discharge its obligations under Article 46 had to depend on the particular circumstances of the individual case and be determined in the light of the terms of the Court's judgment in that case, and with due regard to the above case-law of the Court. *** Judge Garlicki expressed a partly concurring, partly dissenting opinion; Judges Wildhaber, Costa, Caflisch, Türmen, Garlicki and Borrego Borrego expressed a joint partly dissenting opinion and Judges Costa, Caflisch, Türmen and Borrego Borrego expressed a further joint partly dissenting opinion, all of which are annexed to the judgment. *** Registry of the European Court of Human Rights F - 67075 Strasbourg Cedex Press contacts: Roderick Liddell (telephone: +00 33 (0)3 88 41 24 92) Emma Hellyer (telephone: +00 33 (0)3 90 21 42 15) Stéphanie Klein (telephone: +00 33 (0)3 88 41 21 54) Fax: +00 33 (0)3 88 41 27 91 The European Court of Human Rights was set up in Strasbourg by the Council of Europe Member States in 1959 to deal with alleged violations of the 1950 European Convention on Human Rights. Since 1 November 1998 it has sat as a full-time Court composed of an equal number of judges to that of the States party to the Convention. The Court examines the admissibility and merits of applications submitted to it. It sits in Chambers of 7 judges or, in exceptional cases, as a Grand Chamber of 17 judges. The Committee of Ministers of the Council of Europe supervises the execution of the Court's judgments. 1 The Court's judgments are accessible on its Internet site (http://www.echr.coe.int). 2 Under Article 43 of the European Convention on Human Rights, within three months from the date of a Chamber judgment, any party to the case may, in exceptional cases, request that the case be referred to the 17 member Grand Chamber of the Court. In that event, a panel of five judges considers whether the case raises a serious question affecting the interpretation or application of the Convention or its protocols, or a serious issue of general importance, in which case the Grand Chamber will deliver a final judgment. If no such question or issue arises, the panel will reject the request, at which point the judgment becomes final. Otherwise Chamber judgments become final on the expiry of the three-month period or earlier if the parties declare that they do not intend to make a request to refer. 3 Elected in respect of Liechtenstein. 4 This summary, produced by the Court's Registry, does not bind the Court. - Okay!... We understand what does it mean!.. TurCIA must Set free Freedom Fighter Abdullah OCALAN!.. - No!.. The world must Set free Freedom Fighter Abdullah OCALAN!.. - That is true!.. The world must clean the honour of civilization!.. ** _ What should we do? - Many things!.. Join the actions and inform folks!.. Joint liberation movements via Internet for instance! AAARGH: http://www.vho.org/ Abunimah org.. http://www.Abunimah.org/ http://holywar.org/txt/gallery.html Abuse Survivors&Fredrik BENDTZ testimonied and exposed many imported Criminals like Abit DUNDAR-BARZANI Zioni clan's Bastards: http://users.cgiforme.com/fbendz/messages/948.html http://users.cgiforme.com/fbendz/messages/918.html http://holywar.org/txt/wanted.html ADC, Anti-Discrimination Committee: http://www.ADC.org/ http://holywar.org/txt/tysk.html Adelaide Institute: http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/ http://holywar.org/txt/statements.html ADL (American Defence League) Solidarity with Yugoslavian People: http://adlusa.com/adl/ http://holywar.org/txt/image1.html U.N.=United Nonchalance: ADL (Anti-Defamation Zion Criminals) Watch: http://www.zpub.com/notes/adl2.html ADDAMEER, Human Rights against Torture: http://www.addameer.org/torture/index.html Afghanistan Liberation Organisation (ALO, Revolutionary Marxist-Maoist Organisation of Afghanistan Working Class): http://goddoubleplusblessamerica.org/jest/card-hamid_karzai.jpg http://htmlgear.lycos.com/gw/guest/control.guest?u=afghanistan&a=view&i=1&r= Ahram Org.: http://www.Ahram.org.Eg/weekly/ AIC: http://goddoubleplusblessamerica.org/jest/card-dick_cheney_oil.jpg http://www.alternativenews.org/ Al Ansar&Anvari&KurdInfo, Antisemite revolutionary community in Scandinavia: http://www.kurdinfo.com/enver/enver4.htm http://www.albasrah.net/images/war_crimes/pages/7ambulance1_patient1_jpg.htm E-post: Platform@Kurdinfo.com Al Aqsa INTIFADA: http://www.alaqsaintifada.org/ Al Awda Britannia, the Palestinian Right to Return: http://www.Al-Awda.org.uk/ Al Ayyam org.: http://www.Al-Ayyam.com/today/index.asp http://www.al-ayyam.com/guestbook/addnewguest.asp Alexinac; Yugoslavians massacred by the Zionist military mafia's toy NATO: http://www.sramota.com/nato/aleksinac/ Al Fatah Liberation Organization Victoria Siempre! http://www.fateh.net/#[ http://www.fateh.net/e_editor/02/road_map.htm HumanBeing is under heavy manipulation process of Zionist Brainwashing Industry: Al Haq/Law org. affiliate I.C.J., International Commission of Jurists, Geneva: http://www.AlHaq.org/ Al Qudüs University.: http://www.AlQuds.edu/ http://www.alquds.edu/visitor_info.asp AlternativeMedia: http://www.altermedia.info/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=214&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 http://www.altermedia.info/ Amateur plot on 9/11 and plenty of evidences that may hang George WCmouth Bush: http://web11.superb.net/www.nodomain.com/ Apartheid in Fact in the Middle East: Amen-USA: http://goddoubleplusblessamerica.org/jest/card-george_w_bush_tick.jpg http://www.amenusa.org/ Amnesty International: http://goddoubleplusblessamerica.org/jest/card-human_rights.jpg http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/engMDE151432002?OpenDocument&of=COUNTRIES%5CISRAEL/OCCUPIED+TERRITORIES American Free Press: http://www.americanfreepress.net/ Americans against Bombing: http://www.againstbombing.org/ http://www.againstbombing.org/comments.htm Americans against World Empire: http://www.againstbombing.com/ American-Islamic Solidarity: http://www.cair-net.org/default.asp http://www.dontsayyoudidntknow.net/pages/star.html American occupational army executes without reason; it's enough to be killed if people are not Jews&ass slicker collaborators: American state terrorism: http://www.americanstateterrorism.com/ Amin org.: http://www.amin.org/ Amirah/Ethnic Cleansing: http://www.geocities.com/amirah_palestine/Jerusalem_Ethnic_Cleansing.htm http://www.geocities.com/amirah_palestine/Our_Children.html Amnesty International: http://www.amnesty.org/news/1996/51504996.htm http://www.marchforjustice.com/10.10.03.Deception.php http://users2.cgiforme.com/courtnde52/messages/471.html Anders GUSTAFSSON (borned 9 July 1978) slaughtered ( 1 January 1995) by the Assassination league of Jewish terrorist chief Anders CARLBERG. The murderer were the parasites of the trainee centre "Fryshuset". This house is a kind paradise of criminal characterized bastards of system.. Mostly the children who never tasted family life and never met the true parents, been collected by state, placed here and all these dangerous pigs trainee here. This centre is already under control of the Zionist chiefs. High-prized chief and founder of Fryshuset is Fascist Jew Anders CARLBERG: http://perso0.free.fr/cgi-bin/guestbook.pl?login=adama.ndiaye http://www.atvr.ru/forum/thread.php?0403276181515 http://www.trife.com/sevnska/art/22-7-1m.htm http://www.teenschatlive.com/webboard/messages/6495.htm Anna LINDH, Abraham LINCOLN, KENNEDY&KENNEDY, PALME, FORTYN "cleansed" by the same league, ZOGang: http://www.friheten.no/uriks/2003/09/lindh.html http://kikki.tripod.com/index-2.html http://www.network54.com/Forum/65142 http://www.fido7.com/cgi-bin/forumm.fpl?user=mihanyaran&num=25 http://www.w6trw.com/guestbook.html Anti-Fascist Duisburg gegen den zionistischen Imperialismus: http://www.antifakomitee.de/website/soli/palaestina/addameer_veranst_071003.htm http://www.antifakomitee.de/website/irak/10_euro_kampagne.htm Anti-imperialist: http://www.antiimperialista.com/en/ http://pub26.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=2154786270 Anti-Imperialist Musicians (downloading easy and free) against judaized dominance on culture: http://www.sniper-records.net/torsvrede/e_index.htm AntiKrisGroup Initiative supports Palestine&Laponia against Zionist Imperialism: http://www.antikrig.org/ Antiracist Network: http://www.antiracismnet.org/main.html Anti-Semitic Legends: http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/antisemitic.html Anti-Semite poetry: http://www.network54.com/Forum/294605 http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/120309 Anti-War: http://www.antiwar.com/ http://shell1.linetex.de/~busfahrer/pics/bush/asses.jpg Anti-Zionist Laponian revolution supported by Mugu Liberation Movement of Nigeria&Togo: http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream/whatsnew.html?action=/Anti-Zionist_movement/Independetn_Laponian_resistance/AntiJudaic_AntiImperialist_Lars.Törnman Anti-Zionist Magazine Challenge: http://www.hanitzotz.com/challenge/ Anti-Zionist Revolutionary Kurdistan: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1074/ http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1074/israel.html http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1074/israel.htm Webmaster Comrade Roni INAN's e-post: Inan@tdc.dircon.co.uk, IntPEN@dircon.co.uk Apartheid in Fact: (Pissed off by the Jewish Chiefs of Humboldt Co.) http://www.humboldt1.com/~016910/BibliogZionism.html Apartheid should be banned worldwide: www.boycottisraeligoods.org/ Arab Human Rights: http://www.Arabhra.org/index.htm Arbeit macht frei; true! And therefore the jackals prevent the Work Rights of dissidents: http://www.arbetarsocialisten.pp.se/fs-om.htm Arthur R. 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